Codename C correction survey.

Should CNC got "normalized"?


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deszolate

Nerf Master
Staff member
Sep 11, 2021
48
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Due to recent testing with Codename C comparing to official server, I found that she is in "Overbuffed" state

since we normally try to follows official in term of implementation, I do want to "correct" Codename C implement to match official server which will be like 40~50% nerf from current state but I do care about players opinion on her as well so let's do the vote if I should nerf her to match official

What will happens after this?

if most of us agreed that she should stick to official implement then I will do the correction implement and new stances/characters in the future will follows what the official server currently is

but if most of us agreed to keep her implement overbuffed like this, you also indicate that you are ok with custom contents and new or old stances/characters in the future will be customize to get up to CNC implement level of strongness.

Let's discuss.
 

cjhurt

Well-known member
Apr 20, 2020
66
18
go make Tigress prison & Clock tower hard raid same stat like official first, if cnc got nerfed then we just got more trouble for that raid
You say it like these are very challenging at the moment lol.

Personally I like the idea of Cnc getting the official changes to make it possible for custom content to get close to her dps. Will also allow newer characters and stances to be fun to get instead of getting Chloe and her stance and only doing half the damage cnc does. No point in hunting for the stance in that case(making whatever raid it’s in useless most likely). Cnc will still be strong dps and probably the best still for large raids. They will just take a little bit longer.
 
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youkai

Member
Jun 22, 2021
9
6
Cnc will still be strong dps and probably the best still for large raids ? u dont go CT with cnc... with +220ice ress... cnc becoming useless in middle raid.. some are for sharons other for scav.. 1 nerf sadly is last things she need for become barrac meat) only ll do ppl use andro token buying cnv..and other new characters DONT NERF HER!!!
 

emmhor

New member
Aug 3, 2021
3
0
Just keep it fair, if you going to nerf , nerf it but also bring the new stance with it. if other thing got a buff because of a overbuffed cnc debuff the other stuff also.
 

Shinigami98

Member
May 6, 2021
5
3
How long ever since CNC got released? About 8 months? Why has no 1 brought up this matter in the past 8 months? Why now?
When you try to "normalize" an 8 month old character, not only does it cause uncertainty to the player also the confidence toward the game implementation. No body like being punished for the effort they've put into the game.

So what's the objective we're trying to achieve here? Does CNC current "overbuff" state is breaking the game that you only need 1 dps to clear TG Hard? Remember when TG first came out we all struggle with it, it's getting "easier" because player spent and made effort to grow their character.

Or do you want to "Normalize" CNC because upcoming character character like Chloe "Castigo", IVY, Bianca got overwhelmed by CNC?

If that's the case, just buff the newer character and make future raid more difficult that requires "variety" to clear. In the mean time, you could do the same thing you're doing with Montoro to make the older char much more viable while not overpowering the newer char. If you're trying to achieve "TOP DPS", you shouldn't even think about variety, because that breaks the meaning of releasing newer char. In this game everyone wants to be the best DPS, hence you see only the same kind of char running the raid over and over again.

we will be Andromida GE, we dont have to be official. We dont have to be jGE sGE kGE or whatever
Just be aGE, we are our own server. Implement things based on aGE current state instead of following the shadow of official/jGE(heavy customized) server. Players hate "custom content" simply because they do not want broken stances that 1 shot everything, however more custom raids are most probably a welcoming one. "Official, customized, private" or what not is just a choice of word.

Cheers.
 

Infinia

Active member
Jul 31, 2021
32
19
I support the decision that results in a greater variety of character choices for end-game content (whichever that is). I want to be able to play with different character compositions and remain relevant.
 

montree1234

New member
Sep 3, 2021
4
11
In my opinion, they nerf the old character just to sell a newer one, like those mobile games, which it's good for their business.
I still remember back in T3 that we need to spend TONS of, well, vis or cash, and it's not friendly to new player or less fortune.
Maybe nerf her a little, not like 50%, she will be just a garbage and become only COLLECTION. Just think about what happened with those old character.
 

CrinkleHero

New member
Dec 2, 2020
4
1
Here goes everyone saying 'nerf'.... it's FIX not nerf. Same situation when Scav was broken. However, if everything's going to be fair with custom content then keep her as it is. Variety is wut server needs for players who were into trying different characters and be interested. Tbh, doing same raids, dailies, using same 'META' characters.... is just getting boring.
 
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CrownClown

Well-known member
Mar 29, 2020
88
34
Non player, but still...
Of course ppl gonna QQ about literally any stats taken from them. Personal thoughts- it would barely make a difference anyway, with powerhouses like Castigo joining. I mean, powercreep is faster then 40%\year.

On the other side- just put it on low priority.
With upcoming KGE changes, all the chars gonna be rebalanced with stance inbuilt stat scaling, probably CNC is no difference. As for Andromida, even with workflow optimization, such changes gotta take a while (if even possible to implement at all. I mean, im too lazy to download RGE serverside to check if stat scaling is possible to put as "Stance stat" at earlier versions. Possible with buffs, but its way more tricky). Pushing "Normalised" CNC then would not make real impact, thus leaving ppl with no reason to whine.
 

CrownClown

Well-known member
Mar 29, 2020
88
34
Release➡ nerf➡ nerf ➡ 💩
well, its our new reallity...
I mean, was any of 2020-2021 chars even seriously nerfed on KGE, aside from Silver or LB periods?
Nerfs are usually either minor ( some CD changes or stuff. Can be compensated. Iirc KGE CNC recieved mainly CD changes) or for older chars/stances to promote new ones/cash ones, like Bloody Feast getting nerfed for 30+ PEN to promote Corsair and exclude cheap early f2p carry.

IMC already chosen a path that do not need nerfs, after getting negative feedback on old cash chars like Ruby, Kiss, MSB an so on. That path is powercreep, not nerfs.

Also, changing stuff to match original is not nerf, as already mentioned.
 

Srpnte

Member
Mar 14, 2021
7
13
I voting for her aoe multiplier nerf by 40% and this is necessarily. Solotarget output maybe better not to change, or nerf for 10% max, she still stay meta for TG but bringing other dps wont be cringe after that.
To follow official nerf will be ok too
 
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Aithus

Well-known member
Jan 21, 2021
56
15
UK
Please normalize her. It is already for the devs to concentrate on new content and now they need to "calibrate" old issues. Please make life easier for devs and support them on using the official site data. As you saw by now, the dev team are really trying to improve the game, only after the official content has been added for each release then they can improve (see Montoro).
I understand that many of you focused all your efforts on making the best CNC team, but if there was a mistake when she was released, please help devs to make it right.
 

Phloxi

Member
Apr 26, 2021
21
10
Well,Chungha was too much DPS too and got nerfed and she is still okay character(saw most ppl use her anyway)...so DO IT as u did with Chun....
It will be easier to implement the new characters/stances that everybody want...(i am one of them-even if Barracks are full :D)
Thank you and sincerely yours
Phloxi Family