[DECLINED]Make elisa Great Again

4tzal0n

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i dont understand why elisa dont have mass healing here, if that is very usefull when u are raiding solo
now if u dont want ur elisa run healing ur allie dont press space or dont bring her, there are alot char in this game
so i suggest make elisa Great again plz:Dcapture_20200701_231259_109.jpg
 

red20ro

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Because the Healing was bugged - your Elisa will try to keep healing other characters from other players, while in fact, she's not even healing any hp at all, and your Elisa will end up with 0 SP for nothing.
And Mass Healing doesn't really heal much - and then there's that tendency where the heal will cancel animations of any active skills being used.
 

4tzal0n

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Because the Healing was bugged - your Elisa will try to keep healing other characters from other players, while in fact, she's not even healing any hp at all, and your Elisa will end up with 0 SP for nothing.
And Mass Healing doesn't really heal much - and then there's that tendency where the heal will cancel animations of any active skills being used.
So why in official is work good?? so the problem is here
That why i said dont space bar her
aff elisa become useless in this server another char for refill fam lvl only u.u
What Sad Story
 

red20ro

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So why in official is work good?? so the problem is here
That why i said dont space bar her
aff elisa become useless in this server another char for refill fam lvl only u.u
What Sad Story
It is the same in Official, RGE, SGE, JGE.
I have tested this myself.
In fact, my main healer have been Elisa, but I never liked the Mass healing; due to the fact that it does not heal much, even with high INT, and that Elisa needs to get close to whoever she needs to heal.
After changing it to Cure, believe me, it works much better now.
 

4tzal0n

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It is the same in Official, RGE, SGE, JGE.
I have tested this myself.
In fact, my main healer have been Elisa, but I never liked the Mass healing; due to the fact that it does not heal much, even with high INT, and that Elisa needs to get close to whoever she needs to heal.
After changing it to Cure, believe me, it works much better now.
only heal one char at time. with mass healing heal all team
so Btw this change sux
ty for nothing u.u
 

red20ro

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only heal one char at time. with mass healing heal all team
so Btw this change sux
ty for nothing u.u
Yes, the draw back is 1 character at a time.
But, 1 cure equals 2 - 3 mass healing.
And it heals at range.
While Mass Healing - it was good when it was introduced, but somehow, multiple patch down the road, it got worst, way worst.
If the skill itself is bugged, it best to have it removed.
If you believe Mass Healing for Elisa is a must, be constructive with what you write. Maybe it can be re-implemented back.
 
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4tzal0n

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Yes, the draw back is 1 character at a time.
But, 1 cure equals 2 - 3 mass healing.
And it heals at range.
While Mass Healing - it was good when it was introduced, but somehow, multiple patch down the road, it got worst, way worst.
If the skill itself is bugged, it best to have it removed.
If you believe Mass Healing for Elisa is a must, be constructive with what you write. Maybe it can be re-implemented back.
that is must constructiive i can be, btw so there are at probability of change cure for mass cure of stance first aid
like ion have flare of stance of warlock ??
i think that can be work
dont matter if i need to spam key for usecapture_20200702_152809_500.jpgcapture_20200702_152809_500.jpgcapture_20200702_153639_180.jpg
 

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that is must constructiive i can be, btw so there are at probability of change cure for mass cure of stance first aid
like ion have flare of stance of warlock ??
i think that can be work
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Changing personal skills is way easier and causes less trouble, that is why some personal skills have been changed.
I won't change skills of stances, this is simply too much work, doesn't matter what stance.
 
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red20ro

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that is must constructiive i can be, btw so there are at probability of change cure for mass cure of stance first aid
like ion have flare of stance of warlock ??
i think that can be work
dont matter if i need to spam key for useView attachment 885View attachment 885View attachment 886
I understand that you meant to have the Mass Cure from the Stance to be implemented as the default healing for Elisa?
As much as it was something that I thought of way back, I think it wont work, because it involves many hours of work as stated by Dianmir.

The is a difference between Mass Healing (Elisa) vs Mass Cure (Stance)
The formula of the heal itself maybe different, not to mention that Mass Cure requires a catalyst instead of just SP; probably need to create a 'New' copy of Mass Cure just to have it implemented to Elisa.

With that said, I stand my ground, Elisa's Mass Cure is bugged, and it is not working as it should.
But, if you really think that it needs to be Mass Healing instead of Cure.

Open up a new suggestion thread, be constructive, open up a voting poll too.
We'll let the community decide.
 

Frunzila

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without Mass Healing this girl is almost useless... therapy is good for Orden but for solo raid Mass Healing is more good than Cure. Cure, healing characters have a lot of options, Anis, Valeria, Emilia, Viki, etc
my opinion

Cadet Elisa have same Problem ?
 

red20ro

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without Mass Healing this girl is almost useless... therapy is good for Orden but for solo raid Mass Healing is more good than Cure. Cure, healing characters have a lot of options, Anis, Valeria, Emilia, Viki, etc
my opinion

Cadet Elisa have same Problem ?
I think Cadet Elisa is still on Mass Cure - if it wasn't changed that is.
I don't own her, so I wouldn't know.

FYI, if we exclude the fact that Mass Healing is bugged, the output for Mass Healing isn't that big.

But, as I said, if Elisa main thinks that Mass Healing is more important than Cure.
Come up with a suggestion to revert it back.
Replying in this topic would be a waste of time.
 

KoolPrince

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I dont know why people keep saying it's not good to have mass healing on her. May be i need to record a video to show how's good Mass Healing for Elisa. For sure i used to use her for my team and she does a lot of healing for my team! Cure is suck since we have so many char have that selfbuff...
And if you guys want to use Elisa/C.Elisa for squad raid, at least keep 1 of them use Mass Healing. We also need Mass Healing too, so keep Mass Healing for Elisa, and Cadet Elisa use Cure. It's easy!!
 
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legendecoy

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Mass Healing's HP is based on the affected characters' own HP Recovery. Perhaps those people did not use any buff to increase their characters' HP Recovery first, before pressing Mass Healing skill.
 

red20ro

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Actually, my initial suggestion is to have Elisa's Mass Healing not heal other team members.
Because, here, in this server, her Mass Healing personal skill is bugged. Your character either gets healed or not. Because her heal somehow is applied to other players too, but when she heal, the other players don't receive any heal at all. And if you spacebar, your Elisa will just run around trying to Mass heal other players in your squad, when in reality, she's not healing anyone at all and just running around wasting SP.

So, tl/dr, the personal skill itself is BUGGED.

But, if you really think you needed the mass healing so badly, why waste time here? Open up a new suggestion to have it back.
 
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KoolPrince

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Actually, my initial suggestion is to have Elisa's Mass Healing not heal other team members.
Because, here, in this server, her Mass Healing personal skill is bugged. Your character either gets healed or not. Because her heal somehow is applied to other players too, but when she heal, the other players don't receive any heal at all. And if you spacebar, your Elisa will just run around trying to Mass heal other players in your squad, when in reality, she's not healing anyone at all and just running around wasting SP.

So, tl/dr, the personal skill itself is BUGGED.

But, if you really think you needed the mass healing so badly, why waste time here? Open up a new suggestion to have it back.
So you mean because it's Bugged, not because it's no useful.

In rGE, i used to use Elisa for Mass Healing to tank last boss and heal other char, and for sure i don't need to use HP potion too many (at that time, SD is best gear in sever), now they have Valeron, so I dont need to use her for tank... Boss die so fast!!
In rGE Elisa for Mass Healing and Cadet Elisa for Cure
 
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red20ro

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So you mean because it's Bugged, not because it's no useful.

In rGE, i used to use Elisa for Mass Healing to tank last boss and heal other char, and for sure i don't need to use HP potion too many (at that time, SD is best gear in sever), now they have Valeron, so I dont need to use her for tank... Boss die so fast!!
In rGE Elisa for Mass Healing and Cadet Elisa for Cure
Yes, because its bugged.
If you read my original suggestion, I suggested if it is possible to have the Mass Healing to only heal own family, instead of healing all.
I am an Elisa main, been playing Elisa since sge, and that Mass Healing has helped a lot no doubt.

But somehow, over here, it's bugged for some reason.

In squad raids, whenever I need to heal myself, I will sometimes try to manually click on Mass Healing, but my 2 character never gets the heal, because somehow the heal goes to someone else. I will need to either consume potion, or move far away from the others so that the mass healing does not heal the other families.

And since Dianmir said that making changes to the Mass Healing takes a lot of work, and changing it to cure would be the fastest, I just go with it.