[DECLINED]Overhaul Armor Enhancement

[red20ro]

That's because you didn't do enough due diligence and survey in the first place. As i said, you went on with buying from feso shop at the cost of 500k feso each (15m vis each) and that's like 4 times more expensive than the actual cost. So you can't make such argument that it will cost more than 300m vis.

Actually, that's the cost of Vis alone, I did not include the cost of Feso, which was a mistake by me initially.
I later on was told by someone on discord that it can be purchased with Vis > Token, Vis > MM.

**Edit
- I changed the description of my suggestion to just increase the % of the success rate when EB and Imperv are maxed out. Like I said, Win-some-Lose-some should be okay. At the very least, the success vs failure chance are equal.

 

[cuteday90]

Actually, that's the cost of Vis alone, I did not include the cost of Feso, which was a mistake by me initially.
I later on was told by someone on discord that it can be purchased with Vis > Token, Vis > MM.

I dont know bro. I see quite a lot of contradictions in your post on the amount of feso/vis spent. You raised this request because you said earlier that you had spent more than 10m Feso on enhancement. I assume that's 10 times and yes the probability is about right. If you do it this way it will cost 100 Growth Stone which worth around 300m vis.

 

[red20ro]

I dont know bro. You kinda contradict yourself. You raised this request because you said earlier that you spent more than 10m Feso on enhancement. I assume that's 10 times and yes the probability is about right. If you do it this way it will cost 100 Growth Stone which worth around 300m vis.

However you look at it, in my case, I spent twice. Both Feso, and Vis + Feso for EB.

Both have failed and I stopped at only having the GC leather sits at +6.

I was also advised by Dian that these sort of request will raise an uproar within the community. (Which is really odd for a game that's 10 years in age and literally build on P2W mechanic)

All in all, it all sits with the community. If they think its good, cool.
If they think otherwise, no problem.
I voiced out what I think was wrong, and may be improved. And I did.

 

[cuteday90]

However you look at it, in my case, I spent twice. Both Feso, and Vis + Feso for EB.

Both have failed and I stopped at only having the GC leather sits at +6.

I was also advised by Dian that these sort of request will raise an uproar within the community. (Which is really odd for a game that's 10 years in age and literally build on P2W mechanic)

All in all, it all sits with the community. If they think its good, cool.
If they think otherwise, no problem.
I voiced out what I think was wrong, and may be improved. And I did.

I think if you want to convince some of us, you will have to come out with arguments and back it with facts or calculation like what I did. The moment you said you spent feso instead of vis on enhancement, it makes the entire argument of yours a lot more weaker because it doesn't make sense to do so.

 

[Sophistique]

Sometimes ppl should be thankful for what they got. Armro can't go down here and the only real pain was that armor could drop at officals + feso wasn't farmable

 

[red20ro]

I think if you want to convince some of us, you will have to come out with arguments and back it with facts or calculation like what I did. The moment you said you spent feso instead of vis on enhancement, it makes the entire argument of yours a lot more weaker because it doesn't make sense to do so.

Agreed, hence why I updated the description, from being 100%, to just 50%. No perfect enhancement like weapons.

Vis-wise, on how much was spent;
I bought 2 Enhancement sets for 2 trial= 2 +6 Imperv from MM for 3.9M each, and around 160k or 180k Feso for EB (can't remember), so all in all, for 2 trial cost me around 15M on average, not including Feso.

And per day, I would normally enhance, probably for about 3 to 6 times (depending on how much I earn after solo raid), which is about 60m - 90m.
After accumulating the trials of around 4 days, I've lost in total of close to 250m approximately, for 1 freaking GC.
And that's not including rage enhancement, probably 2 Event GC broke during enhancement out of anger.

 

[red20ro]

I think if you want to convince some of us, you will have to come out with arguments and back it with facts or calculation like what I did. The moment you said you spent feso instead of vis on enhancement, it makes the entire argument of yours a lot more weaker because it doesn't make sense to do so.

Agreed, hence why I updated the description, from being 100%, to just 50%. No perfect enhancement like weapons.

Vis-wise, on how much was spent;
I bought 2 Enhancement sets for 2 trial= 2 +6 Imperv from MM for 3.9M each, and around 160k or 180k Feso for EB (can't remember), so all in all, for 2 trial cost me around 15M on average, not including Feso.

And per day, I would normally enhance, probably for about 3 to 6 times (depending on how much I earn after solo raid), which is about 60m - 90m.
After accumulating the trials of around 4 days, I've lost in total of close to 250m approximately, for 1 freaking GC.
And that's not including rage enhancement, probably 2 Event GC broke during enhancement out of anger.

Sometimes ppl should be thankful for what they got. Armro can't go down here and the only real pain was that armor could drop at officals + feso wasn't farmable

I can certainly agree. Literally just voicing out what I think could be improved. Yet, it isn't that urgent, rest it all on the community's decision.

 

[chicodaniel]

Something i agree with someone that said
"Once Dianmir gets +7 guaranteed on weapons, people will start to ask for more and more easy stuff"

Armor system is good as it is, game shouldn't be that easy, problem with weapons was that they could break, armors dont have the same problem and downgrade got removed.

 

[Sophistique]

Something i agree with someone that said
"Once Dianmir gets +7 guaranteed on weapons, people will start to ask for more and more easy stuff"

Armor system is good as it is, game shouldn't be that easy, problem with weapons was that they could break, armors dont have the same problem and downgrade got removed.

Ye i agree

 

[Stronggate]

Well i would say armors for +7 100% is a cool idea, will still be feso sink cuz ofc for +7 safe need more feso, and people will still prefer to try luck and fail. again 2 options for who like to gamble or who like to go safe, i prefer to pay more and go safe route, and for OP feso farmers is +8 option gamble win or loose. i do not see any harm, and people will be "a little" more sturdy in pvp...mostly cb and xpvp as many said field is 1 shoot fiesta, idk what happened to the pvp damage reduction tho

 

[Redsuns]

100% +7 weapons
100% +7 armors
100% +10 accessories
100% +8 weapons
100% +8 armors
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.
.
Their requests will never end, might as well make everything 100% as well as enchants to not deal with this any longer.
Since they want everything fast let them have everything at once. Might want to change the game to Pay to Play,

 

[red20ro]

100% +7 weapons
100% +7 armors
100% +10 accessories
100% +8 weapons
100% +8 armors
.
.
.
Their requests will never end, might as well make everything 100% as well as enchants to not deal with this any longer.
Since they want everything fast let them have everything at once. Might want to change the game to Pay to Play,

Being sarcastic and providing no actual point of argument makes your justification useless.
As much as I know it wont be approved anyway, I've got facts and numbers to show for it.
And I leave it to the community to decide.

This is a private server, with direct involvement of the developer with the community, with a specific 'Suggestion' section.
Of course the request will never end, you will see a lot more of unbelievable request.
It's a matter of perspective, whether it gets Approved, or Declined.

One last thing, nobody wants everything fast, it makes a game too easy and boring.
I stated that I want a Win-some-Lose-some situation.
Not Win-some-Lose-all, which is the main core feature of the game itself; GE is a P2W game by design.

**Not related
Facts & Trivia: GE was Pay-to-play way back when. As a matter of fact, it was Pay-to-play & Pay-to-Win both at the same time. Pepperidge farm remembers.

 

[Kucai98]

100% +7 weapons
100% +7 armors
100% +10 accessories
100% +8 weapons
100% +8 armors
.
.
.
Their requests will never end, might as well make everything 100% as well as enchants to not deal with this any longer.
Since they want everything fast let them have everything at once. Might want to change the game to Pay to Play,

This is a suggestion section, of course the thing posted here will be a suggestion/request. What did you expect it to be?

The advantage of a "Private" server is the ability to be more flexible than Official server (They have suggestion forum but it is mostly just for show)
Fixing and changing what the official server lacks is what attracts people to migrate to a private server in the first place.

**Not related
Facts & Trivia: GE was Pay-to-play way back when. As a matter of fact, it was Pay-to-play & Pay-to-Win both at the same time. Pepperidge farm remembers.

Very old player will know this and boy how much has changed since then (100 to Veteran requires real $$)

 

[cjhurt]

yeah remember promotion scrolls were a thing in the cs. was very hard to be free to play back then and make it to anything high end sense you had to pay to level up lol.

im surprised people want to continue praying to the RNG god this bad. we are trying to get +7 so we can raid with armors up to the raids design. everything that you do was made for people to have +7 weapons and armors to fight. would it take away the feso sink? yes it will. but that means you can actually spend feso on something else. not like there isnt enough stuff in the feso shop/costume shop lol.

every suggestion here is people asking for something better. 100% for acc upgrade has already been declined. im sure it wont be the last thing that gets declined in suggestions. no need to get angry at whoever made the post, or get mad because people want to suggest some quality of life changes in the future

 

[red20ro]

I do not know what more challenge in the game that they are actually looking for.
If I had my say on this, I'd say I've been playing the game at a very challenging level for the past 10 years.

And remember, on this server, we're starting over again mind you. AGAIN; The quest, The RNG, The Farming, The Raids, The frustration, everything, all over again.

And to be frank, you can +10 your DR 35 or 40, and you'll still be one shot kill by meta RNPC anyways.
And then, you'll complain about how char C is OP and stuff.

 

[hellven]

+ on this idea. Everyone have said their take, i'll just add myself to the list who agree with this.

 

[Dianmir]

First, thanks to everybody participating, was easy to read and could follow the arguments.
The suggestion will be declined for two reasons that people have already mentioned.

1. Armor enhancement system we currently have is already improved alot, there is no reset of Armors to +0 Enhancement.
2. The major Feso Sink in the economy is Armor Enhancement and we want that to stay.
Yes I am aware that Feso is a controversial topic for the last 10 days but that doesn't change the fact that a system to battle Feso inflation is required.

It is by far easier to get good to very good armors on our server than on other servers. That also applies to new players.
+6/+7 Greek Croma and/or Strata Devil Armors get players a very long way, since Enchanting is also easier.