New Andromida Box discussion

[deszolate]

Since we're gonna release the new Andromida box this week
but I've got many negative feedbacks about the current version contains too many trash items
(ref: https://granado-espada.to/index.php?threads/u-t-d-andromida-lucky-box-2021.943/ )

let's discuss which one should got removed and why it should be removed, if possible what should be in place of it

 

[chikodaniel]

Remove all leave just Ancient books gg

 

[deszolate]

Remove all leave just Ancient books gg

sure at the price of 30k tokens should be reasonable

 

[Infinia]

I can't say what's worth for others but I can share my personal opinion.

• Squad Soul Crystal
• Diplomatic Delegation Certificate - Kielce

I dislike getting the above. I'd much prefer ordinary or Enhanced Soul Crystals over Squad Soul Crystals. But, even Soul Crystals are not worth it since they're obtainable with Fesos.
The Kielce certs are not very useful once the achievement is unlocked.

• Additional Reward Coupon

I think the amount of coupons should be increased.

• Black Armonium Ore

Giving Black Armonium Ores with no chance to obtain the Deus/AA recipes from the boxes make them seem quite worthless (especially for newer players). Perhaps giving an event recipe and some Black Armonium Ores as a bundle would be better (with a lower chance of obtaining, of course). The player can then work towards crafting it with most of the ingredients already provided.

• Enhanced Total Status Ampule
• Enhanced Liquor of Steroid
• Triumph Liquor
• Principal Liquor

Consolidate the above as a bundle. Perhaps include some useful food too.


Besides that, the rewards for consecutive opens are not attractive.
Replace or improve [Shiny Solarion] and [Karin's Vital Potion]. Give [Ancient Pages] or more character boxes. Even additional free Andromida boxes would be nice (akin to a rebate).

Finally, improve the loot table overall. I would love to see:

• Ancient Pages
• Weapon Costume Boxes (any series)
• Crafted Armonia Accessories Summon Stone (event)
• AA/Deus Crafted Weapons or Recipe Pieces (event)
• Weapon Lumins (permanent): Coral, Arche, Onyx

 

[GimmeKiss]

If I were only allowed to change 1 thing, I'd remove black armonium ore, there's too few places to use them and the recipes are hard to come by

 

[hazardb]

A chance to get abyss arma / deus accessories page . That stuff never drops somewhere and u can’t trade it . Other than that , quintario essence / crystals / 5 e summon stone event

 

[Noir317]

I can't say what's worth for others but I can share my personal opinion.


I dislike getting the above. I'd much prefer ordinary or Enhanced Soul Crystals over Squad Soul Crystals. But, even Soul Crystals are not worth it since they're obtainable with Fesos.
The Kielce certs are not very useful once the achievement is unlocked.


I think the amount of coupons should be increased.


Giving Black Armonium Ores with no chance to obtain the Deus/AA recipes from the boxes make them seem quite worthless (especially for newer players). Perhaps giving an event recipe and some Black Armonium Ores as a bundle would be better (with a lower chance of obtaining, of course). The player can then work towards crafting it with most of the ingredients already provided.



Consolidate the above as a bundle. Perhaps include some useful food too.


Besides that, the rewards for consecutive opens are not attractive.
Replace or improve [Shiny Solarion] and [Karin's Vital Potion]. Give [Ancient Pages] or more character boxes. Even additional free Andromida boxes would be nice (akin to a rebate).

Finally, improve the loot table overall. I would love to see:

• Ancient Pages
• Weapon Costume Boxes (any series)
• Crafted Armonia Accessories (event)
• AA/Deus Crafted Weapons or Recipe Pieces (event)
• Weapon Lumins (permanent): Coral, Arche, Onyx

I agree with pretty much everything, except with event armonia acc… I mean, I never really get why we gotta be stuck with items that are un-tradable. Especially when we paying real money for them, whether it’s gear or any other items, in the end we still end up selling some if not most of them for vis. Therefore, I’d much prefer to get Holy Water instead, since we have an abundant amount of armonia/santo recs that aren’t being used. I’d not mind getting quiri essences too, instead of “event 5e” stone… but that’s just me lol

 

[Infinia]

I agree with pretty much everything, except with event armonia acc… I mean, I never really get why we gotta be stuck with items that are un-tradable. Especially when we paying real money for them, whether it’s gear or any other items, in the end we still end up selling some if not most of them for vis. Therefore, I’d much prefer to get Holy Water instead, since we have an abundant amount of armonia/santo recs that aren’t being used. I’d not mind getting quiri essences too, instead of “event 5e” stone… but that’s just me lol

Regarding event accessories - they are event so it doesn't inflate the economy with its supply. They aren't entirely untradable since they can still be exchanged for Dazzling accessory crystals. It should be a massive help for players starting off, but not so much for veteran players.
Adding [Armonia Holy Water] to the boxes would inflate holy waters in circulation causing the average price to drop, making it harder for players who rely on that as a source of income, to earn vis. [Token of Virtue] drops from Bible roulettes would also become much less valuable than it is now.

But, I understand that over time, getting another event accessory from the Andro box could become a pain. My suggestion would simply be: make the rate low so it would be a rare chance to obtain them, making it less likely to obtain duplicates.

Furthermore, I disagree with adding Quiri essences to boxes for the same reason of inflating the market with its supply. Quiri runs are profitable because of the drops. Adding essences to boxes and lowering the average price of the essences would make the raid a lot less worth doing (depending on how much inflation it brings).

 

[BlackCoffee]

With the increased price of andro tokens in game (used to be 800k, now it's around 2.8m) and the low rate of good rewards; in my opinion it's not worth it to gamble for andro boxes. Maybe you can lower the price to 30-40 tokens per box. You can take these out: Black Armonium Ore, Dazzling fragments (only few people are saving these for 5ele access), Squad Soul Crystal (normal sc is fine), Diplomatic Delegation Certificate - Kielce.

500 shiny solarions for opening 100 boxes? I even know an official server giving the latest character on their lyndon box as the100th reward. If you put those 4 ancient stances, it might lure a lot of players to buy andro boxes. Or aside from buying them for 1200 tokens, you can also add those new chars on andro boxes. Some people like to gamble instead of buying those chars with 1200 andro tokens. There is no excitement to open andro boxes. In official server, players are excited to gamble because the new character is there.

Maybe a new weapon series that can only be found on andro boxes, like in that old dead server, they had abyss weapons (not abyss arma ones). It has 20% to all races bonus. It can give more excitement to gamble.

 

[Preimo]

I think sticking to the philosophy of any item in the boxes can be obtained in the game or traded is a must for many (speaking as a CS user!).


Agree that black ores are mostly pointless in here and the milestone rewards are not nearly good enough to bother opening that many even if there are quite a few that have!

 

[fredieespada]

Lower the chances for the following:

Dazzling Rhodolite Fragment	1	5,00%
Dazzling Holy Water Fragment	1	5,00%
Dazzling Otite Fragment	1	5,00%
Dazzling Petrified Gas Fragment	1	6,00%
Dazzling Corazon Fragment	1	6,00%

Replace Black Armonium Ore with Crystallized Nucleus

Add more Quantity for the following: (Vital Potion can be used to farm more on Rank 7 to get Ancient Page)

Karin's Vital Potion	25	0,80%
Enhanced Total Status Ampule	10	7,00%
Enhanced Liquor of Steroid	10	7,00%
Triumph Liquor	10	7,00%
Principal Liquor	10	7,50%

Remove please

Additional Reward Coupon

10

8,00%

Add Accessory Recipe (Event) with low chance if possible.
If Ancient Page/Stance will change, I believe that the market price for Andromida Token will spike up again.

 

[puarin]

For your consideration, we are in severe lack of supply of Lyndon's Weapon Costume Summon Stone, it would be great if you could add these to the box as we currently don't have a way to acquire these beside paying 750 tokens

 

[Phloxi]

Remove : Black Armonium ore
Replace for : Crystalized Nucleus(revamp then Nucleus shop- items in it(add Bl.Armo ore and other- for discuss later)

Remove : Squad Soul Crystal (move it into Fesoshop @ 50k ea)
Replace for : Enhanced Soul crystal

Remove : Grand and Expert Summon Pet Stone(can be bought for reasonable price or as a reward for some achievements and are needed only few times)
Replace for : Weapon Costume Ticket ( the rainbow one,so we can choose from Costume merchant)

Remove : Enhancement Boosters (they at low cost in Feso Shop and for enhancing just need 20 pcs @ 10k feso)
Replace for : Costume Lumins box ( Black diamond/Taaffeiete/Arche/Coral/Onyx - 1 ea)

Remove : Additional Reward Coupon (can be easily obtained at low levels missions besides Rank trooper)
Replace for : Holy Water @ same rate and amount

Remove : Dazzling Fragments all kind(add re-entry for Origin missions for 5EJ once a day - so people get moar Origins for craft those)
Replace for : Valeron Blessing 34 -38 ( becuse ppl crafting like hell)

Remove : nothing
Replace for : add Lyndon Weapon costume stone beside the artifact and medal stones at 0,3%
Replace for : add Premium Character Card Summon Stone 3pcs @ 0,3%

Remove : Ancient Books ( explain below)
Replace for : Ancient pages - a bit higher rate than books self-(so anyone can get his own book of own choice from Guardian Master)

Remove : Diplomatic Delegation Certificate - Kielce (adding them to feso shop below the Bristia book - general tab)
Replace for : 10x Moon stones (??)

Bonus Roulette Special Rewards
100th - Shiny Solarion(keep it as it is)
200th - Dazzling Lumin Special Box (keep it)
300th - Karin's Vital Potion (keep it - needed for ranks missions)
400th - Master Character Card Summon Stone (keep it)
500th - High Master card Summon (keep it)
600th - Crystalized Nucleus(replace for Black Armonium ore)
700th - Quinnitula's Broken Leg
800th - Revenant's Broken Shoulder Bone
900th - Ziz's Broken Horn
100th - Valerons summon recipe stone or crafted one - NOT EVENT - ( we deserve this for 1000th opening )

And final request to Devs - MAKE PLEASE AFTER 1000th a reset.....now we recieving after 1000th always the same - the last Premium summon stone 3 pcs.

Thank you

 

[Elite_Le_Nub]

Remove : Enhancement Boosters (they at low cost in Feso Shop and for enhancing just need 20 pcs @ 10k feso)
Replace for : Costume Lumins box ( Black diamond/Taaffeiete/Arche/Coral/Onyx - 1 ea)

Dont agree. 1000 boosters it s like 100GS(250m+). Quite a nice little thing. Its always needed for yourself or could be sold.

Remove : Additional Reward Coupon (can be easily obtained at low levels missions besides Rank trooper)
Replace for : Holy Water @ same rate and amount

Holy water can be obtained easilly and much with dailies 40+ pcs.
Also 10 coupons that usually drops cost 2.5m+ and can be used on "expensive roulettes 4-5m.
Coupons always needed for yourself or could be sold. Coupons more profitable
If you wanna remove coupons - Holy water is not good idea for replacement

Remove : Diplomatic Delegation Certificate - Kielce (adding them to feso shop below the Bristia book - general tab)
Replace for : 10x Moon stones (??)

are you serious?

 

[Phloxi]

Dont agree. 1000 boosters it s like 100GS(250m+). Quite a nice little thing. Its always needed for yourself or could be sold.


Holy water can be obtained easilly and much with dailies 40+ pcs.
Also 10 coupons that usually drops cost 2.5m+ and can be used on "expensive roulettes 4-5m.
Coupons always needed for yourself or could be sold. Coupons more profitable
If you wanna remove coupons - Holy water is not good idea for replacement


are you serious?

It was mine opinion,so yes i am serious.Anyway its not me who decide what will change/remove or be replaced in boxes.
With the holy water i wasn´t sure(name one thing that should be instead of the water) and with the Kielce certificates,yes I AM SERIOUS...its described that they wont dissapear forever,but be moved into Feso shop.
Try your self any revision of the boxes,i would like to read it,maybe i change my mind and agree with you
Have a nice day

 

[Elite_Le_Nub]

It was mine opinion,so yes i am serious.Anyway its not me who decide what will change/remove or be replaced in boxes.
With the holy water i wasn´t sure(name one thing that should be instead of the water) and with the Kielce certificates,yes I AM SERIOUS...its described that they wont dissapear forever,but be moved into Feso shop.
Try your self any revision of the boxes,i would like to read it,maybe i change my mind and agree with you
Have a nice day

Are you serious?!?!?!
nuh, i'll just hate you))