[ACCEPTED]Add the rest of the rare stances to the Crystallized Nucleus shop

Any objections?


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Belligero

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Jul 14, 2020
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Since you already set the precedent by including Lama, the latest and rarest stance book in the game, in the nucleus shop, I thought it would be prudent to include the rest of the rare stances in the shop as well.

To be clear, I am speaking specifically about Innocentio, Punisher, Heavy Stinger, Creacion, Placidez and Rosa Secreta.

I think it would fit in theme with the rest of the shop as it includes practically every weapon and armor set you could use practically past and present save for the very end-game ones on our current version.

If these stances are already available through the extra token shop, I don't see harm in giving another method of obtaining them, seeing as many of them are still unnecessarily rare and aren't meta defining. The most expensive one of the bunch would be Placidez, which typically goes for around 900m.

My suggestion is to include them in the shop with a reduced rate compared to Lama. As for the cost of nucleus and elemental jewels required, I will leave that up to Dianmir and the community to decide but I think 6,250 Nucleus and 10-15 EJs is a fair price for Placidez and Creacion, and a lower amount for the rest.
 

Dianmir

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Status of suggestion has been changed to [PENDING]. I would like to know players opinion on this before accepting it.
 
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vonKronen

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i dont have yet not any idea what that shop is or the rate of Bounties / Rank Missions, but as is saw they are obtain able via the shop and the "orginal" Method. i dont see a need for more tbh. a few things should stay at a rate that are "hard" to obtain or take time. in the end this is a mmo and should have a long progression curve that slowie flattens in Progression overtime.
 

greiver99

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Considering Lama which is a more coveted stance is already in it, yeah it makes sense, plus considering how they are priced in retail servers now, those other stances are pretty much not that rare anymore. But yeah that is in retail, the reason for the lack of these stances here is the preference of people in doing other raids that are less effort with more rewards.

This is a good idea.
 

waynemizuno

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Mar 29, 2020
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I like and I think most people would like the idea that there would be more ways to obtain these books. They are not gaming changing powerful or meta.

One thing that should be concerned is that they are on the extra token shop already. If they were on the nucleus shop as well, I guess no one would bother open zenia boxes considering the amount available per week and the low rate. It'd lower the value of zenia boxes a lot. Don't forget it's quite costly to open them as well. A solution is to either lower the key price from 10k feso to 5k or lower, or to increase the drop rate and amount available per week.
 

Belligero

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No one except for a few people farm Virion maps these days. I tour them a lot and it's always the same 2-4 families.

The demand simply isn't there now, and it's not going to change with the stances added in the nucleus shop.

i dont have yet not any idea what that shop is or the rate of Bounties / Rank Missions,
Not to discredit your opinion, but it seems like you are newer to this game and while it is a fine opinion to have, your stance is too generalized and maybe a bit naive if you don't even know what shop we're speaking of.
 

4tzal0n

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Apr 13, 2020
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Btw all other stance are in rank shop extra for me is no priority this change and is uselles, but if u agree that why no include too lama in rank shop extra??
 
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Belligero

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Btw all other stance are in rank shop extra for me is no priority this change and is uselles, but if u agree that why no include too lama in rank shop extra??
Your sentence structure is irregular and hard to understand but to answer your question, one resource requires you to do end-game content and the other you can get from anything, even regular B.H.

It's one thing if you're being rhetorical but that's a terrible comparison.
 

4tzal0n

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Apr 13, 2020
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Your sentence structure is irregular and hard to understand but to answer your question, one resource requires you to do end-game content and the other you can get from anything, even regular B.H.

It's one thing if you're being rhetorical but that's a terrible comparison.
Is only my opinión cause all whole squad for that end content is doing between 12st and 16 st hard time for some player for america mostly of us are working or bussy some other stuff in real life that why my suggestion i dont see nothing bad whit is
 
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Valerhia

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Mar 29, 2020
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I'd definitely agree to this, doing so will bring us closer to being a private rather than an official server since we would have to deal with less RNG to get stances that usually need RNG in official servers.
 

vonKronen

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Mar 31, 2020
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No one except for a few people farm Virion maps these days. I tour them a lot and it's always the same 2-4 families.

The demand simply isn't there now, and it's not going to change with the stances added in the nucleus shop.



Not to discredit your opinion, but it seems like you are newer to this game and while it is a fine opinion to have, your stance is too generalized and maybe a bit naive if you don't even know what shop we're speaking of.
dont worry as said , talked from a less expierenced stand point about server and stuff that came after Viron. So everythign after that is completly new to me
 

vanatree

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Jun 9, 2020
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Again, since the precedent has already been set with Lama, I don't see why we can't have the other stances, that are considerably easier to obtain, be added to the Nucleus Shop. IMO, these are the effects I can think of so far:

Pros:
- Creates a variable resource sink for Nucleus other than simply saving up for Lama over and over every month.
- As more players start doing the higher end raids, availability of these stance books should increase and prices should settle at a lower price.
- Provides others with more opportunities to use these stances, and therefore characters that mainly use if not require them.
- Should motivate players to actually complete scenario quests. :rolleyes:

Cons:
- Draws players more towards the raids that provide nucleus and some might skip the lower-mid end raids entirely. To this effect, it might reduce the variety of content players who have already reached end game are willing to help others with considering there's a lesser pay-off.
- Pricing has to be considered to not cause too much of a devaluation.
- Might leave a bad taste to people who have already invested considerable time and resources to obtain the stances using the current methods; can be argued that this is the same as Lama, although the effects of Lama in the shop on effort and pricing will need more time to be properly evaluated.

The only reservations I have would be with Placidez. Buffers are valued already because of how limited they already are. I think Placidez should be priced in the shop closer to Lama, if not excluded from the list entirely to avoid a "One Raid fits all" effect. Compared to Lama, Placidez already has a variety of avenues it can be obtained from.
 

Dianmir

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Mar 25, 2020
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Suggestion has been accepted. Arguments/discussion is high quality, no emotions, proper arguments.
Thank you everybody. Actual documentation can be found on patchnotes for 22.09.2020.
 
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