Feedback on cash shop items and prices

Dianmir

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Welcome!

We kindly ask everybody to give us feedback on our current list of items and their prices for Cash shop. The list can be found here.
The following points are of interest for us:
1. Which item should we remove from the current list?
2. Which item should we include to the current list?
3. Which item is too expensive/cheap?

If you suggest adding an item to the cash shop, please ask yourself the following questions.
a) Could this be considered "pay2win", as in does this give someone who pays alot too much of an advantage?
b) Could this break the meta of PVE and/or PVE?

We prefer to keep the cash shop towards cosmetics and items that safe you time (but don't safe you the effort of playing the game).
 
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Sophistique

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Not letting people get their favorite characters which are needed nowadays to do certain stuff will kill it. The game is not what it was anymore and almost everything is very hard to do now even with the right chars and even with good gears. And giving away random boxes ,is just a matter of luck again.

Bosses got reworked they spawn 2x a day now with 82 ar dr ++ , so i want to see how this works out.
 
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Penelope

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first of all i would put the merc license in feso , not in cash.
10 euro for a char , sure fine.
things that kinda stick out for me are:

Sacred Sedecram Pass (7 days)Period5,00
eek , just put in feso pls.
Enhanced Liquor of SteroidConsume3,00
feso aswell? 3 euro for 1 10hour buff ... eh well ..
5 euro for a pet , sure fine .
5 euro for 1 wep costume .. also decent i suppose
 

Dianmir

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first of all i would put the merc license in feso , not in cash.
10 euro for a char , sure fine.
things that kinda stick out for me are:

Sacred Sedecram Pass (7 days)Period5,00
eek , just put in feso pls.
Enhanced Liquor of SteroidConsume3,00
feso aswell? 3 euro for 1 10hour buff ... eh well ..
5 euro for a pet , sure fine .
5 euro for 1 wep costume .. also decent i suppose
Thanks for the feedback, I believe you are right about these two.
Anyways the Mercenary License can also be acquired from playing.
 

Dianmir

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Not letting people get their favorite characters which are needed nowadays to do certain stuff will kill it. The game is not what it was anymore and almost everything is very hard to do now even with the right chars and even with good gears. And giving away random boxes ,is just a matter of luck again.

Bosses got reworked they spawn 2x a day now with 82 ar dr ++ , so i want to see how this works out.
I don't see a problem with having players actually play the game instead of paying real money for their favorite characters.
What I do believe is people rather mean "meta" instead of "favorit", it most cases it will be the same thing.

Like mentioned on Discord the items and prices are up to discussion.
I'll kindly ask you to wait and check again once roulette rework and other mechanics have been made available.
 

Arcanine

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I think cash characters that are recruitable now should be in cash shop like Friede and Rosa.
 

Dianmir

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I think cash characters that are recruitable now should be in cash shop like Friede and Rosa.
From what I recall, this should be a list of these?
Selene
Rose the Spirit
Rosa
Liung
Friede
Cherlyn
Sorang - AP only
Sniper Berneli - AP only
Valeria Vendetta
Battlefield Claude - AP only
Spy Olivia - AP only
Montoro - AP only
Pioneering Grandies - AP only
Sorang

Like stated by Dommi on Discord a few minutes ago, introducing these right before/after server launch wouldn't be problematic for PVE but very problematic for PVP. I believe we can add these at a later point once the community has progressed past a certain "breakpoint".
 

Arcanine

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From what I recall, this should be a list of these?
Selene
Rose the Spirit
Rosa
Liung
Friede
Cherlyn
Sorang - AP only
Sniper Berneli - AP only
Valeria Vendetta
Battlefield Claude - AP only
Spy Olivia - AP only
Montoro - AP only
Pioneering Grandies - AP only
Sorang
Correct
 

Bluelords

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i think some items are too expensive, basic pets 5€? put the more needed like wolf or dragon and charge 5, not end game but for a fresh server are good.
Costumes, some are really rare or not even seen yet, so you should do event for costume release, like 1 month release of nine tail, 1 month of ogre costumes. People gets borred if same items in shops and get excited if somethign rare and in "special" release, and every few month or half year you can redo the sale.
 

Dianmir

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i think some items are too expensive, basic pets 5€? put the more needed like wolf or dragon and charge 5, not end game but for a fresh server are good.
Costumes, some are really rare or not even seen yet, so you should do event for costume release, like 1 month release of nine tail, 1 month of ogre costumes. People gets borred if same items in shops and get excited if somethign rare and in "special" release, and every few month or half year you can redo the sale.
Thanks for the reply, we are currently having a discussion on Discord about the pets. It seems we will replace/add those pets with better ones but not the best pets the game has to offer.

About the costumes: There are way more weapon costumes and wings that aren't on the cash shop, they can either be obtained ingame or will be made available at a later point. Examples would be events, new rewards for new content. Another idea is having "flash sales" with lower price and limited time window on certain items on cash shop. Nothing too game breaking obviously.
 
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Dianmir

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I will put the content of a text file I received from a player here, it is mainly about premium characters / cash shop.

Mid-tier characters in cashshop:
Arbitrator berthe : i don't see why not , you already put cadet amy in the cashshop and they're basically the same as support.
Lada : She's the main tank character in the game , i do not see why she would be game breaking as she's really just a tank , no pvp/pve dmg so.
Guardian CoA : she's a decent pvp char , and also a debuffer , not strong in pvp/pve at all so i don't see why she would be gamebreaking.
Jaina : She's a real mid-tier char if you would ask me , shes great for afk purpose / lvl up purpose . Then again for endgame / being meta character she's not at all lol.
Juliana : She's a mid-tier pvp char nothing meta , she's quite tanky but her dmg is really low , cuz she got a nerf recently so.
Ornella(?) : She's quite endgame actually , but then again she has no damage , not tanky and basically a Anis without the ET buffs....
Rosa : Can get her from quest ingame already , but takes forever , buff purpose only.
Vanshee Natalie : Same thing i said about jaina basically overall good mid-game character endgame not so much.
Mireille : PVP purpose only , she's a real under-rated pvp character and quite old .
Adelina The Pirate (with corsair) : PVP purpose only just a suggestion for that one.

Mid-tier Pets in cashshop :
Noble popo : Quite a balanced pet , good for pve/pvp but not a pet end game people use.
-> it gives monster dmg immu / pene +10k hp
Black dragon : good for Pve but once again not a pet eng game people use.
->it gives monster dmg+ crit,acc,movespeed
Talong : PVP/TANK purpose only , since there's better endgame pets for tank/pvp ,such as (rhino/diablo.)
-> it gives 20k HP 20 def 5/10 immu (can't remember) which is still a far way from 1 dr 20 immu rhino / 1 ar dr 5 pen immu monster dmg diablo.

As for any other suggestions , maybe a "decent" medal for players who login / create their account the first week of server launch? Like (First Hero/Pioneer!)
which gives like 2%atk and maybe 1% monster , just an idea .
 

Obscura

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I think doing a designated number of characters in a batch monthly, and not all at once, would be nice. If anything, I would like to see Aisha in here.
 

i8mykeyboard

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Not letting people get their favorite characters which are needed nowadays to do certain stuff will kill it. The game is not what it was anymore and almost everything is very hard to do now even with the right chars and even with good gears. And giving away random boxes ,is just a matter of luck again.

Bosses got reworked they spawn 2x a day now with 82 ar dr ++ , so i want to see how this works out.
I would like to bring everyone back to the point when we had +/- eight people in the discord group (currently we have roughly 250). The idea was to liberate the game from paying to win aspect and create an even and equal playing field. I think this is especially important considering current time of scrutiny, which has had impact on the majority of us. Plus, we have all witnessed fall of some great servers due to the P2W aspect. Introducing every char to cash shop goes against the very principles on which the server was built.

Even support chars have their pros & cons when it comes to balanced gameplay. For example, CRomina can make almost any shooting dps a great one. Do we want to see that early in the game though? Because, let's face it, you will not reach the endgame scenario in a day or a week. It's a question of gearing up as well, which will not happen at an instant.

There is more than one way to skin a cat. You do not need Canna or MSB to make it in the game, but you do need them to break the game. Which one is the goal here? When WB fall in 5 min because of 10 Cannas - is that a challenge? WB should be challenging that's why they're WB. You have to sweat for that drop. Especially, with the revised loot and roulette. Previously, on any endgame raid of the respective version of the game you needed to have 20+ geared up people. Today, you kill WB with five. That's not how mmorpg works.

And, as it was mentioned in Discord, the char boxes will not be random. It is a character summon stone. So you can choose the char that you want to have. Please, pay attention to what is being said.

I get it, no one wants to be a noob again. Everyone wants to just buy and roll, have it easy way. In this case, please refer to the beginning of my comment. Coming to a new server, you accept their vision and their approach. You may not agree with it, you may question it, but you have to accept it. Let them do what they see fit and how they see fit. Approach can always be adjusted, but there is no reason why they should deviate from plans.
 

i8mykeyboard

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Mar 27, 2020
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I think you can safely put 30-90-365 day buffalo wings in cash shop, but keep 1, 3, 7, 14 (do they even exist?) days ones in feso shop.

I do agree about the license, that perhaps it is priced a bit high given the in-game value of the item. Costumes will be bought even if they are priced $2 higher.

Pets are tricky as the ones that are listed do not necessarily provide value for the money. But it can be as a quick go-to should people wish to cut corners, and it doesn't affect anyone. So overall OK.

Chars-wise...My position is as long as we do not have any OP chars available for cash. Battlefield Claude, for example, would be fine, but Montoro most likely not.

I'll take a better look in the morning and then might add more.
 

Sixorius

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Mar 31, 2020
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Hey, I am curious about the Premium Wing Coupons. Are they obtainable outside cash shop? Because wings became essential due to their stat boost and you need 2 at least each month (scout type characters can wear the ugly but useful devil wings; and if the "+ damage to monster" option is not available in this version more wings are needed because you have to choose the racial options then). 10 € per month just for wings is a bit meh in my opinion and i would rather spend these on costumes or upgrade materials :unsure:
 

Sophistique

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Mar 29, 2020
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I will put the content of a text file I received from a player here, it is mainly about premium characters / cash shop.

Mid-tier characters in cashshop:
Arbitrator berthe : i don't see why not , you already put cadet amy in the cashshop and they're basically the same as support.
Lada : She's the main tank character in the game , i do not see why she would be game breaking as she's really just a tank , no pvp/pve dmg so.
Guardian CoA : she's a decent pvp char , and also a debuffer , not strong in pvp/pve at all so i don't see why she would be gamebreaking.
Jaina : She's a real mid-tier char if you would ask me , shes great for afk purpose / lvl up purpose . Then again for endgame / being meta character she's not at all lol.
Juliana : She's a mid-tier pvp char nothing meta , she's quite tanky but her dmg is really low , cuz she got a nerf recently so.
Ornella(?) : She's quite endgame actually , but then again she has no damage , not tanky and basically a Anis without the ET buffs....
Rosa : Can get her from quest ingame already , but takes forever , buff purpose only.
Vanshee Natalie : Same thing i said about jaina basically overall good mid-game character endgame not so much.
Mireille : PVP purpose only , she's a real under-rated pvp character and quite old .
Adelina The Pirate (with corsair) : PVP purpose only just a suggestion for that one.

Mid-tier Pets in cashshop :
Noble popo : Quite a balanced pet , good for pve/pvp but not a pet end game people use.
-> it gives monster dmg immu / pene +10k hp
Black dragon : good for Pve but once again not a pet eng game people use.
->it gives monster dmg+ crit,acc,movespeed
Talong : PVP/TANK purpose only , since there's better endgame pets for tank/pvp ,such as (rhino/diablo.)
-> it gives 20k HP 20 def 5/10 immu (can't remember) which is still a far way from 1 dr 20 immu rhino / 1 ar dr 5 pen immu monster dmg diablo.

As for any other suggestions , maybe a "decent" medal for players who login / create their account the first week of server launch? Like (First Hero/Pioneer!)
which gives like 2%atk and maybe 1% monster , just an idea .
I would like to add Aclla (mid tier channeling skill character nothing op or even near that can help a lot in the beginning not just for pve )

Divino Pet same reason as the other pets , mid tier not end tier like rhino /diablo/toys/ bible